i don't think president obama will call mitt romney a liar in the next debate. that's not presidential. i think he'll be much more aggressive. i don't think romney is a liar, he just manages to convince himself that any position is fine at the time. ted kennedy had it best. ted kennedy said i'm the pro choice candidate. my candidate is the multiple choice candidates. mitt romney says whatever he has to say and there's no core belief there. that's a problem for him in the general election because i think people are into that. they get that politicians say anything and obama doesn't do that. obama pretty much tells like it is. did he do a good job in the debate? >> no. >> governor i want to ask you about vice president biden yesterday on the stump, some comments that people are calling a gaffe by biden where he said obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. guess what, yes we do. is that the right kind of message? >> wait a minute. excuse me but the rest of that you haven't in full context. yes we'll raise taxes on the wealthy. they have been sayi